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stora enso dispute

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Postby StoraMan » Mon May 15, 2006 11:49 am

The "Union" works hard to keep the "union" brainwashed and submissive.



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Postby NC » Mon May 15, 2006 2:39 pm

Well then, I guess the lambs are just going to walk quietly to slaughter.



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Abourque's about to be retireds. More details ?

Postby cfaretiredincb » Mon May 15, 2006 4:33 pm

local 972 negotiating commitey are doing there best to reach a fair deal for its members ,they deserve a lot of credit for their efforts.
That's the biggest joke I've heard on this forum so far. How do you know they're doing their best? Definitely not for a fair deal. They are still and will remain in complete "Power Bargaining" mode, as long as their current executive board is in place.

A bunch of retirees to be with nothing to personally lose (except 20% of their pension), making decisions on the futures of everyone else, including the 6000plus spin off or salary workers that are directly affected, but have no vote.

Saying to "No" to everything & waiting for someone else to make the move is a far cry from doing your best to reach a "fair" deal isn't it...? They deserve 0 credit, and especially since they are working hard to bankrupt the company.



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Postby NC » Mon May 15, 2006 9:51 pm

Be nice to Gbourque LabourTalk likes to have as many sides to the story as possible.

I hope he/she continues to offer some resistance, I want to learn what the union supporters have to say too. Hopefully some of them will slip the leash for long enough to get a message out.

Come one Ronnie, at least one of your minions must be reading this stuff by now.. what are you doing out there?



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What Tom said in 1781

Postby cfaretiredincb » Tue May 16, 2006 4:59 am

"Dependence begets subservience and venality (subject to bribery), suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition."

-- Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, Query 19, 1781)

If a Canadian had said this, would anybody be able to quote it today?

With the workforce and business community apparently more dependent on the union than management, how does a workforce make a break from such an unhealthy arrangement - even if they wanted to?



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Postby redneck » Sat May 20, 2006 12:47 pm

"YOU ARE INEBRIATED BY THE EXUBERANCE OF YOUR OWN VERBOSITY" JOHN DEIFENBAKER DON'T GET SMART WITH YOUR QUOTES WITH ME . I CAN MATCH YOU ONE FOR ONE. BY THE WAY IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS , LOOK UP EACH WORD IN THE DICTIONARY...IT MAY HELP.[quote][/quote]



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Postby StoraMan » Sat May 20, 2006 2:06 pm

I know what it means. You just described Clayton Fougere or one of the others that stagger around shunked on the line.



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Postby redneck » Sat May 20, 2006 2:33 pm

WRONG... TRY AGAIN



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Postby NC » Sat May 20, 2006 11:01 pm

Redneck, let me give you a tip - Don’t play leapfrog with a unicorn.

If you think you can parlay with the likes of cfaretiredincb, you can't. I know him, dispite the distances, and have had the opportunity to interact with him. He limits his interactions at my behest. Don't beard the lion in his den, but for the grace of NC goes Redneck.

Granted, for one of your ilk you do well... but past that, you ain't makin' it, so just keep up with what you are doing but don't get cocky, it ill-becomes you.

I am forming a level of respect for your input, regardless of your ireful ranting and name calling. Would that you knew where you stand you would thank me.

Thanks.



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Postby redneck » Sun May 21, 2006 2:03 pm

THANKS FOR THE WARNING , HOW DO YOU KNOW I CAN'T PARLEY WITH HIM OR EVEN IF I WANT TO . MOST OF MY INTERACTIONS HAVE BEEN WITH STORAMAN . YOU ASSUME A LOT JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY YOU KNOW HIM , YOU DON'T KNOW ME .

THANKS FOR THE CONCERN BUT I EXPECT YOU TO BAN ME AT ANYTIME ANYWAY , FOR USING CAPITAL LETTERS....OH SORRY , I MEAN YELLING.



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I hope the PH Ch of Com sings this lustily at meetings

Postby cfaretiredincb » Wed May 24, 2006 12:05 pm

ackground music: Life's Railway to Heaven, performed by Patsy Cline and Willie Nelson

It's all right to remember,
That's part of history,
But up front's where it's happening,
There's so much mystery.

The enjoyment of living,
Is not where we have been,
It's looking ever forward,
To another year and ten.

It's searching all the byways,
Never should you refrain,
For if you want to live your life,
You gotta drive the train

:!: :!: :!: :!: :!:



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I hope the PH Ch of Com sings this lustily at meetings

Postby cfaretiredincb » Wed May 24, 2006 12:11 pm

ackground music: Life's Railway to Heaven, performed by Patsy Cline and Willie Nelson

It's all right to remember,
That's part of history,
But up front's where it's happening,
There's so much mystery.

The enjoyment of living,
Is not where we have been,
It's looking ever forward,
To another year and ten.

It's searching all the byways,
Never should you refrain,
For if you want to live your life,
You gotta drive the train

:!: :!: :!: :!: :!:



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If you think you can parlay with the likes of cfaretiredincb

Postby shiftc » Wed May 24, 2006 12:58 pm

Can anyone tell me where Redneck is????

I so enjoyed his adroitness and cleverness of reply. Give the dude some credit. At least he provided another slant to this forum. Why can't we get more of the union folks to log on here?

It's so much fun to read the blather!!!



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Postby NC » Wed May 24, 2006 3:10 pm

Redneck's detention is over, it is up to him to come on back as Redneck. He made a brief reappearance as Megaman, but that was shut down too.

I hope we hear from him again soon as I too enjoyed his more lucid posts but the ban on constant yelling (CAPS LOCKS) stands.




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