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Postby NC » Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:47 pm

Here you go people, start reading, I'd like to hear if any of the regulars have any input on this. I got an email asking for my opinion...

Read this mess, I'd love any help I can get understanding what the hell is going on.

http://www.olrb.gov.on.ca/Decision%5C0106-10-R.pdf


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Postby green1 » Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:08 pm

wow... complicated...

Quick summary:
- employees try to file decert
- union tries to prevent it through confusing the issue with multiple unions
- judge sees through it all and orders the union to accept the application
- judge orders a vote on the decertification
- everyone lives happily ever after?

It looks like the union tried to make themselves immune to decertification through effective use of smoke and mirrors, they made sure that there were at least 4 different unions involved (for a workplace of only 4 employees! talk about top heavy!), so that no matter who the employees try to decert against they end up being able to claim that it's not them, it's the OTHER union. and failing that, they can claim they know of no decert application because it was delivered to the wrong union.

That said, the judge (correctly) noted, that the burden of notifying all the different unions involved does not fall to the employee, but to the union, as they are likely to be talking to one another anyway, and it would be too difficult for the individual employee to keep track. Of particular note is that the employees DID notify their local union office, and that this is the same union office that issued their union membership cards. (In other words, they did their absolute best, and there is no way they could reasonably have been expected to figure out the complicated administrative mess the union had created behind the scenes)

All in all, shameful misdirection on the part of the union, and a sensible reaction from the judge.

The date ordered for the vote was back in april... did they succeed?



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Postby NC » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:48 am

I am waiting to hear. I have very little to go on, just a sadly plaintive email about the trouble this person has been having. It is very upsetting and none too cheap either I suspect. I hope this lady has some help because it looks like this has been a tough road.

I know JJ is off the scope for a short while, I got an email to post on the Ontario Construction issue that suggests he is not near proper email so we cannot count on him.


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Postby green1 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:47 am

Well that decision looks sensible, the real question would be what happened next?
Did the vote ever happen? and what was the outcome?

What trouble are they running in to now?



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Postby alec » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:22 am

cue the axe handles and baseball bats.....


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